The Hardest Mission In prophecies - Page 2 - Guild Wars Forums

Kiragi Yagami · Jan 29, 2008, 04:10 PM // 16:10

I Honestly think that Prophecies was the easiest campaign, though i found that (since it was my first) my builds and teams were a bit mis-matched and i failed a LOT of bonuses because of it. another thing, there are a few missions where it is very hard to get both mission and bonus for the mission in one run, you will have to return and do bonus seperately. (another reason why i love proph, dont have to finish the mission to complete side objective, hinthint NIGHTFALL hinthint) i think that the hardest mission BEFORE the desert would have to be Riverside Province, getting bonus was tricky for me on that one, especially with a PUG. if you havnt been pointed this way already, allow me to point you towards GuildWiki. ( www.gw.gamewikis.org ) it has answers to pretty well any question you could possibly ask. good luck with prophecies!

lietzaum · Jan 29, 2008, 04:43 PM // 16:43

i would have to agree with mithran on this the hard ones i think are in HM the nm missions just take patiences and time Aurora Glade i found very hard to do and ThK HM is horrible with hero/hench i had to get 6 guildies to help me with it
the hardest part of the HM missions though is to find a group

LicensedLuny · Jan 29, 2008, 08:12 PM // 20:12

As for hardest, I think it really depends on your build and your team. Given, having decked-out heroes makes most of all the campaigns easier than using henchies, and missions will be harder in hard mode. But different people find the same mission to be easier or harder depending on their build and their playstyles.

You haven't finished Prophecies, but if this isn't your first campaign, you may find most of Prophecies to be relatively easy compared to the missions in Factions or NF. For me, most of the hard stuff in Prophecies went away with the introduction of heroes and the h/h flags. If you're looking for a challenge, try the missions without heroes (team is you, friends and/or henchies,) and don't use the henchie flag. You could even try using only core or Prophecies skills on your bar. That'll give you more of a feeling for how hard the game was originally designed. ANet doesn't often, if ever, adjust the difficulty of one campaign because of features available from another campaign.

A note about THK (Thunderhead Keep) that everyone keeps mentioning - it's nowhere near as hard as it used to be. They've scaled it way back in terms of the amount of time you wait between waves of attackers. Last time I did that in Normal Mode it was actually so boring that we left the king and started going outside the keep looking for fights.

IMO, this was a bad change. I haven't tried it in HM, but friends and I no longer enjoy that mission when just helping someone get a new character out to the island.

Sanctum Cay hasn't ever really been hard if you do the bonus, them simply wait at the wall and pull (with a longbow) the mantle up in smaller groups to kill off. You have to get a lot closer to the dock than longbow range for the Vizier to appear there.

Oh, and Diversion pwns Willa

Cheers

Olim Chill · Jan 29, 2008, 08:28 PM // 20:28

Aurora Glade, in either mode, can be a royal pain with henchies. That'd get my vote.

agrios · Jan 29, 2008, 08:30 PM // 20:30

Thunderhead Keep is the most difficult, by far.

andrew21594 · Mar 25, 2008, 01:10 PM // 13:10

AURORA GLADE

If you got good build the killing is easy, but I always lose at shrines cos they cap them.

Brawn Over Brains · Mar 25, 2008, 01:31 PM // 13:31

I still haven't done all the missions (I spend my time with quests/merch)
But so far I've found Ice caves of sorrow the hardest maybe.. I can't even get past the beggining of that mission because of the mursaat/ice imps keep killing me.. Freakin' henches..

Olim Chill · Mar 25, 2008, 01:39 PM // 13:39

^Sounds like you're not infused. I'd suggest traveling to Iron Mines of Moladune - you can get infused inside that mission with little trouble.

Then you can go back to tackle Ice Caves of Sorrow.

GL.

Highlander Of Alba · Mar 25, 2008, 02:04 PM // 14:04

If you only have Prophecies then all can be henched.....

What you have to realise some guys are posting re heros ect..

So all are not really difficult if you plan with Lure ect in the latter missions

I used to always carry a bow depending on the build for that purpose when henched only ..no heros

with the hench having a mind of there own at present running off to agro some guys just take your time and you will master all

As far as Aura glade there is a simple way to get ..just stay at shrine near the Druid..down the hill a little, and you will have only small groups coming to claim the last shrine just take each group out as they come ,crystal carrier always first... when last group has came just go and kill the level 16 Boss for bonus..then activate the other 2 shines for cut scene..

beregond · Mar 25, 2008, 02:20 PM // 14:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by StormDragonZ

Top 3 Hardest for me (getting w/ bonus):

1) The Dragon's Lair
2) Dunes of Despair
3) Riverside Province

I echo this. Except that I'd change 3. to Aurora Glade, because although bieng easy, most of the time noobs in the group make everyone lose.

TheRaven · Mar 25, 2008, 04:52 PM // 16:52

I have to agree with the "nothing in prophecies is hard" comment, however it really depends on the player and which campaigns he owns. If you only own Prophecies then these missions are hard! If you have all 4 games then you have a nice selection of really cool skills like pain inverter and Savannah heat that just steam roll Prophecies areas that weren't designed with these skills in mind.

So, while I don't consider any of them hard (in normal mode), there are definitely some annoying ones.
- Aurora Glade: time consuming doing the whole mission then wiping at the end.
- The Wilds: Don't pug this one. Some lamebrain wammo will kill the centaur.
- Divinity Coast: Protect helpless NPCs that are too stupid to run away from the red dots is not my cup of tea.
- Ruins of Surmia: See comment under "The Wilds".

A lot of people have commented on the desert missions. I enjoy those. The desert missions are designed specifically to prepare you for Heroes Ascent. HA used to be placed at the end of the desert, not in a separate Battle Isles. So the desert missions try to teach you strategy elements that you encounter in HA. (Relic running, protect the altar, working with Ghostly, priest resurrection, etc)

I'm currently working my way thru the missions in HM. I sailed thru the first ones with no problems at all. I've gotten stuck at D'Alessio Seaboard. No matter what I try I can't seem to reach whatshisname before he dies. I've attempted a smattering of missions after this and so far I haven't encountered many issues finishing them. The desert was easy. The Southern Shiverpeaks were easy. The jungle ones seem to be tough and I haven't attempted any in the Ring of Fire yet.

quickmonty · Mar 25, 2008, 04:59 PM // 16:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brawn Over Brains

I still haven't done all the missions (I spend my time with quests/merch)
But so far I've found Ice caves of sorrow the hardest maybe.. I can't even get past the beggining of that mission because of the mursaat/ice imps keep killing me.. Freakin' henches..

Avoid the mursaat unless the entire party is infused. Ice imps shouldn't really be a problem if you don't aggro all of them at once.

Sha Noran · Mar 25, 2008, 05:05 PM // 17:05

Abaddon's Mouth can be very challenging if you are inexperienced at controlling henchmen, depending on your class.

Serenitysong · Mar 25, 2008, 05:41 PM // 17:41

Abaddon's Mouth and Hell's Precipice can be challenging if you don't have the correct build and team set up. Interrupts, careful pulling and practice makes these misisons much easier.

Painbringer · Mar 25, 2008, 05:52 PM // 17:52

Thunderkeep CAMP THE DWARF CAMP THE DWARF come on quit attacking the dwarf holy crap you just fried him to death. (old days before heroes)

Also the Frost Gate mission although easy with max armor and 20 level if you actually try to do the bonus as you come to it low level and low armor it is hard and I quote from WIKI

Beware of two groups of Stone Summit there; if they are together, they will pose a significant challenge, especially with several Dolyak Riders healing each other and the Summit.

The Daemon Warrior · Mar 25, 2008, 06:06 PM // 18:06

The bonus from the dunes of despair mission can be a pain in the ass, main mission is easy though

Kevin Of Nowhere · Mar 26, 2008, 01:17 AM // 01:17

I had trouble with thunderhead keep a long time ago on my first char...now I see it's really easy if you just know what to do.

Sir Tidus · Mar 26, 2008, 01:35 AM // 01:35

For me, the Aurora Glade bonus was very annoying.

masta_yoda · Mar 26, 2008, 01:40 AM // 01:40

dunes of despair is the most complicated one probably if u dont have heroes or a non-retarded team for bonus

Bluefeather · Mar 26, 2008, 02:01 AM // 02:01

Nothing is hard in Prophecies anymore because of the Heroes (and the Ursan Blessing hehehe).

But it was not the case when we only have Prophecies.

The hardest I can remember back then was the THK Mission. I gave up on it first and created a monk (they are always looking for a monk back then). I first finished Prophecies in my monk character.

I am a solo player but i was forced to join teams (pugs) in the desert missions and in the ring of fire. So, i guess those are really difficult missions back then.

Mar 25, 2008, 05:41 PM // 17:41	#34
Serenitysong Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Mar 2008 Guild: Clandestiny of Solitude [LaZy] Profession: E/	Abaddon's Mouth and Hell's Precipice can be challenging if you don't have the correct build and team set up. Interrupts, careful pulling and practice makes these misisons much easier. Last edited by Serenitysong; Mar 25, 2008 at 05:54 PM // 17:54..

Jan 29, 2008, 04:10 PM // 16:10	#21
Kiragi Yagami Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Nov 2007 Guild: Elician Mercinaries [eLm] Leader. Profession: E/Me	I Honestly think that Prophecies was the easiest campaign, though i found that (since it was my first) my builds and teams were a bit mis-matched and i failed a LOT of bonuses because of it. another thing, there are a few missions where it is very hard to get both mission and bonus for the mission in one run, you will have to return and do bonus seperately. (another reason why i love proph, dont have to finish the mission to complete side objective, hinthint NIGHTFALL hinthint) i think that the hardest mission BEFORE the desert would have to be Riverside Province, getting bonus was tricky for me on that one, especially with a PUG. if you havnt been pointed this way already, allow me to point you towards GuildWiki. ( www.gw.gamewikis.org ) it has answers to pretty well any question you could possibly ask. good luck with prophecies!

Jan 29, 2008, 04:43 PM // 16:43	#22
lietzaum Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2006 Guild: VILE Profession: N/	i would have to agree with mithran on this the hard ones i think are in HM the nm missions just take patiences and time Aurora Glade i found very hard to do and ThK HM is horrible with hero/hench i had to get 6 guildies to help me with it the hardest part of the HM missions though is to find a group

Jan 29, 2008, 08:12 PM // 20:12	#23
LicensedLuny Badly Influenced Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Buying Humps! (No kidding! Check my buy thread) Guild: Hello Kitty Krewe [HKK] Forever!-ish	As for hardest, I think it really depends on your build and your team. Given, having decked-out heroes makes most of all the campaigns easier than using henchies, and missions will be harder in hard mode. But different people find the same mission to be easier or harder depending on their build and their playstyles. You haven't finished Prophecies, but if this isn't your first campaign, you may find most of Prophecies to be relatively easy compared to the missions in Factions or NF. For me, most of the hard stuff in Prophecies went away with the introduction of heroes and the h/h flags. If you're looking for a challenge, try the missions without heroes (team is you, friends and/or henchies,) and don't use the henchie flag. You could even try using only core or Prophecies skills on your bar. That'll give you more of a feeling for how hard the game was originally designed. ANet doesn't often, if ever, adjust the difficulty of one campaign because of features available from another campaign. A note about THK (Thunderhead Keep) that everyone keeps mentioning - it's nowhere near as hard as it used to be. They've scaled it way back in terms of the amount of time you wait between waves of attackers. Last time I did that in Normal Mode it was actually so boring that we left the king and started going outside the keep looking for fights. IMO, this was a bad change. I haven't tried it in HM, but friends and I no longer enjoy that mission when just helping someone get a new character out to the island. Sanctum Cay hasn't ever really been hard if you do the bonus, them simply wait at the wall and pull (with a longbow) the mantle up in smaller groups to kill off. You have to get a lot closer to the dock than longbow range for the Vizier to appear there. Oh, and Diversion pwns Willa Cheers

Jan 29, 2008, 08:28 PM // 20:28	#24
Olim Chill Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: USA Guild: DMI Profession: N/	Aurora Glade, in either mode, can be a royal pain with henchies. That'd get my vote.

Jan 29, 2008, 08:30 PM // 20:30	#25
agrios Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2006 Location: South America Guild: Naked Stalkers of America[Nude] Profession: W/	Thunderhead Keep is the most difficult, by far.

Mar 25, 2008, 01:10 PM // 13:10	#26
andrew21594 Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Dec 2007 Profession: W/Mo	AURORA GLADE If you got good build the killing is easy, but I always lose at shrines cos they cap them.

Mar 25, 2008, 01:31 PM // 13:31	#27
Brawn Over Brains Krytan Explorer Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: England Guild: X Devils Rejects X Profession: W/Mo	I still haven't done all the missions (I spend my time with quests/merch) But so far I've found Ice caves of sorrow the hardest maybe.. I can't even get past the beggining of that mission because of the mursaat/ice imps keep killing me.. Freakin' henches..

Mar 25, 2008, 01:39 PM // 13:39	#28
Olim Chill Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: USA Guild: DMI Profession: N/	^Sounds like you're not infused. I'd suggest traveling to Iron Mines of Moladune - you can get infused inside that mission with little trouble. Then you can go back to tackle Ice Caves of Sorrow. GL.

Mar 25, 2008, 02:04 PM // 14:04	#29
Highlander Of Alba Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jan 2007 Guild: Real Rogue Clan Profession: Rt/Mo	If you only have Prophecies then all can be henched..... What you have to realise some guys are posting re heros ect.. So all are not really difficult if you plan with Lure ect in the latter missions I used to always carry a bow depending on the build for that purpose when henched only ..no heros with the hench having a mind of there own at present running off to agro some guys just take your time and you will master all As far as Aura glade there is a simple way to get ..just stay at shrine near the Druid..down the hill a little, and you will have only small groups coming to claim the last shrine just take each group out as they come ,crystal carrier always first... when last group has came just go and kill the level 16 Boss for bonus..then activate the other 2 shines for cut scene..

Mar 25, 2008, 04:52 PM // 16:52	#31
TheRaven Desert Nomad Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Virginia Guild: Spirit of Elisha Profession: W/	I have to agree with the "nothing in prophecies is hard" comment, however it really depends on the player and which campaigns he owns. If you only own Prophecies then these missions are hard! If you have all 4 games then you have a nice selection of really cool skills like pain inverter and Savannah heat that just steam roll Prophecies areas that weren't designed with these skills in mind. So, while I don't consider any of them hard (in normal mode), there are definitely some annoying ones. - Aurora Glade: time consuming doing the whole mission then wiping at the end. - The Wilds: Don't pug this one. Some lamebrain wammo will kill the centaur. - Divinity Coast: Protect helpless NPCs that are too stupid to run away from the red dots is not my cup of tea. - Ruins of Surmia: See comment under "The Wilds". A lot of people have commented on the desert missions. I enjoy those. The desert missions are designed specifically to prepare you for Heroes Ascent. HA used to be placed at the end of the desert, not in a separate Battle Isles. So the desert missions try to teach you strategy elements that you encounter in HA. (Relic running, protect the altar, working with Ghostly, priest resurrection, etc) I'm currently working my way thru the missions in HM. I sailed thru the first ones with no problems at all. I've gotten stuck at D'Alessio Seaboard. No matter what I try I can't seem to reach whatshisname before he dies. I've attempted a smattering of missions after this and so far I haven't encountered many issues finishing them. The desert was easy. The Southern Shiverpeaks were easy. The jungle ones seem to be tough and I haven't attempted any in the Ring of Fire yet.

Mar 25, 2008, 05:05 PM // 17:05	#33
Sha Noran Desert Nomad Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: http://tinyurl.com/2jlusq Guild: Idiot Savants [iQ] Profession: R/	Abaddon's Mouth can be very challenging if you are inexperienced at controlling henchmen, depending on your class.

Mar 25, 2008, 05:52 PM // 17:52	#35
Painbringer Furnace Stoker Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Minnesota Guild: Black Widows of Death Profession: W/Mo	Thunderkeep CAMP THE DWARF CAMP THE DWARF come on quit attacking the dwarf holy crap you just fried him to death. (old days before heroes) Also the Frost Gate mission although easy with max armor and 20 level if you actually try to do the bonus as you come to it low level and low armor it is hard and I quote from WIKI Beware of two groups of Stone Summit there; if they are together, they will pose a significant challenge, especially with several Dolyak Riders healing each other and the Summit.

Mar 25, 2008, 06:06 PM // 18:06	#36
The Daemon Warrior Academy Page Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: The Netherlands Guild: The Celestial Fellowship [CeF] Profession: W/	The bonus from the dunes of despair mission can be a pain in the ass, main mission is easy though

Mar 26, 2008, 01:17 AM // 01:17	#37
Kevin Of Nowhere Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Massachusetts Profession: R/	I had trouble with thunderhead keep a long time ago on my first char...now I see it's really easy if you just know what to do.

Mar 26, 2008, 01:35 AM // 01:35	#38
Sir Tidus Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jan 2008	For me, the Aurora Glade bonus was very annoying.

Mar 26, 2008, 01:40 AM // 01:40	#39
masta_yoda Banned Join Date: Feb 2007 Guild: most hated players in the [game] Profession: R/Mo	dunes of despair is the most complicated one probably if u dont have heroes or a non-retarded team for bonus

Mar 26, 2008, 02:01 AM // 02:01	#40
Bluefeather Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Philippines Guild: [PNOY] Profession: W/R	Nothing is hard in Prophecies anymore because of the Heroes (and the Ursan Blessing hehehe). But it was not the case when we only have Prophecies. The hardest I can remember back then was the THK Mission. I gave up on it first and created a monk (they are always looking for a monk back then). I first finished Prophecies in my monk character. I am a solo player but i was forced to join teams (pugs) in the desert missions and in the ring of fire. So, i guess those are really difficult missions back then.